Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alexei Navalny’s suspicious death Friday in a Russian Arctic prison continues to reverberate around the globe. World leaders, including President Biden, spoke today of stepped up sanctions against Russia, as Navalny’s widow picked up his fight against Vladimir Putin. Meanwhile, Russian authorities said they would hold Navalny’s remains for a further two weeks.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Heavy with equal parts grief and resolve, Yulia Navalnaya released this video today vowing to keep up her husband’s fight.
Interpreter (00:35):
By killing Alexei, Putin killed half of me, half of my heart, and half of my soul. But I still have the other half, and it tells me that I have no right to give up. I will continue the work of Alexei Navalny, continue to fight for our country. I urge you to stand next to me, to share not only my grief and endless pain, but also to share the rage.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Navalny’s cause of death remains unknown. Russian authorities blocked Navalny’s mother from the morgue where her son’s body is believed to be held.
(01:07)
Across Russia, more than 50,000 people have now signed a petition demanding Navalny’s body be released. Today his widow met with European Union ministers in Brussels as they weighed how to respond to the dissident’s death.
Micheal Martin (01:22):
What has happened reminds us all of the repressive and oppressive nature of the regime in the Russian Federation and of how President Putin has ruthlessly put on any opposition and suppressed any dissent.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
In Moscow, Kremlin spokesman, Dmitry Peskov blasted Western leaders who’ve blamed Putin for Navalny’s death.
Interpreter (01:50):
An investigation is underway and all necessary actions in this regard are being carried out. But so far the results of this investigation have not been made public, and in fact, they’re unknown. Therefore, in conditions when there is no valid information, we believe that it is absolutely inadmissible to make such well, frankly, boorish statements.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Makeshift memorials have popped up across Russia as mourners pay tribute to Navalny’s legacy.
Interpreter (02:19):
He was a very strong person, and I think all of Russia is suffering because we lost such a hero.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
In St. Petersburg, men clad in black, removed flowers from a memorial carrying them away in garbage bags. But moments later, Navalny supporters returned to replace them. Other memorials have also been dismantled across the country, and police have detained nearly 400 people for attending events commemorating Navanly’s death.
(02:47)
With less than a month to go before Russia’s national election and with Putin’s victory all but certain, Navanly’s death further scatters and weakens an already thin opposition movement.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
For the latest on Navalny’s death and what it might mean for the future of Russia’s opposition movement, we turn to Andrei Soldatov. He’s a Russian investigative journalist and a senior fellow at the Center for European Policy Analysis.
(03:14)
Andrei, thank you so much for being here. It has been four days since Navalny’s death was announced. Russian authorities have not allowed his family to see his body or take possession of his body. What do we know about the circumstances surrounding his death?
Andrei Soldatov (03:32):
Well, to be honest, the circumstances are getting more and more mysterious. The initial official version was that he died on the 16th, but now there are some reports from unofficial reports from his penal colony that probably he died the day before because that’s when there was a lot of unusual activities, lots of cars coming to at his place, and apparently it was somehow connected to his sudden death.
(04:03)
Why he died we still do not know. We have no clue. The official reason is sudden death, whatever it means. And as you pointed out, the family doesn’t have any access to his body.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Do you think that his family will ever truly know what happened?
Andrei Soldatov (04:21):
I very much hope so. Of course, we have a very long record of political assassinations under mysterious circumstances over the last 20 plus years under Vladimir Putin, and every time it was extremely difficult to establish the cause. And we have a number of poisonings and with very few people we actually know what was used against them, and several cases, even now after 20 years, we do not know, for instance, what was used against famous Russian journalist, Yuri Shchekochikhin in 2003, and what was used against Anna Politkovskaya.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
President Biden and many other leaders have squarely placed the blame for this death on Vladimir Putin. Do you share that belief?
Andrei Soldatov (05:16):
Yes, absolutely. I think what we have been seeing over the last three years, it was a deliberate, systematic effort to kill Navalny, not just to isolate him, but to kill him, moving him up north to more and more horrible conditions. And what happened before, I mean, his poisoning is a very clear sign that he was a target of a political assassination. It just failed back then, but they didn’t fail now.
(05:51)
We also know that Vladimir Putin being a very practical man, made political assassination part of his toolkit, and now we can say that, well, we have the upcoming election. Putin is extremely nervous. Again, it makes a perfect practical sense for him.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Can you help me understand something though? Because after that poisoning that Navalny survived, he returned to Russia. He had to know that he would be imprisoned perhaps for the rest of his life. Help us understand why he might’ve done that.
Andrei Soldatov (06:25):
First of all, Navanly didn’t believe in his political future in exile. He believed that he needed to get back and that he needed to conduct his political activity in the country. He was a strong believer of this idea. Of course, now the circumstances completely changed, but remember that it was before the full scale invasion started and it appeared to some people including Navalny that there was still some room for legitimate political activity in the country.
(06:59)
He also built a very impressive network of supporters all over the country, and he didn’t want to abandon them, and he believed that ethically he needed to be with them in Russia. Of course, he took his chances and it was extremely brave, but well, Vladimir Putin decided to imprison him and finally to kill him.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
What does this do to the opposition movement in Russia? I mean, that movement has been splintered and fractured and disparate for many, many years. Now with its ostensible leader gone, what does that do to that movement?
Andrei Soldatov (07:42):
Well, it’s impossible to deny that it is a horrible blow because as you pointed out, yes, the movement was never cohesive and there were always problems and arguments within the community of Russian activists and opposition politicians. Navalny was the most popular politician, and of course it is a blow.
(08:10)
At the same time he and his organization made possible several things, which Russian political opposition believed was just impossible. For instance, he organized protests in Russian regions. And we always had this concept that Russian liberals live only in big cities like Moscow, St. Petersburg. Navalny changed that. For that he built an organization. For that he got his supporters and network of people. These people are still there. We are not going anywhere. Some of them are still in the country, some of them left, but they’re all very much active and very determined to remain active politically.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
All right, Andrei Soldatov, thank you so much for joining us.
Andrei Soldatov (08:58):
Thank you.