Oct 21, 2024

Musk Speaks at Town Hall in Pennsylvania

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Elon Musk takes questions from Pennsylvania voters at ‘America PAC’ Town Hall in Folsom, Pennsylvania, Read the transcript here.

Elon Musk (00:04):

Wow, this is amazingly great energy. Thank you for coming. So I’m holding my phone. We’re doing sort of a live Spaces as well as a video cast. I’m holding my phone for that reason. If you see me [inaudible 00:00:22], why is he holding his phone? We’re doing a live X spaces at the same time as a video stream. So I’ll be able to take some questions from obviously, as many questions as possible from the audience and as well from people online. But as you can see, I’m obviously here in person. This is me not a clone of me. And the reason I’m here in person is because Pennsylvania is so important to the future of the world, so. You show what matters by your actions, not your words. And my actions are I’m here, I’m in Pennsylvania, and I’m here for a very important reason, which yeah, which is I can’t emphasize enough that Pennsylvania is, I think the linchpin in this election. And this election, I think is going to decide the fate of America and along with the fate of America, the fate of Western civilization.

(01:34)
And I think the things we all want are simple, sensible, I think common sense things. We obviously want, we want secure borders. We want safe cities, sensible spending so that we don’t have crazy inflation, we want freedom of speech, we want the Constitution to be upheld. And you know what? I’m being told at times that these are right-wing values. I’m like, are you insane? There’s literally the fundamental values that made America what it is today. And anyone who is against those things is fundamentally anti-American and the hell with them. Yeah. Yeah.

(02:45)
I see I’m getting a lot of agreement from everyone in this room. Yeah. So I actually lived in Pennsylvania for three years by the way. I’m no stranger to the state. I lived in the city for three years. I went to school here, so I know the state. I’m not some just arrived situation here. I’ve been here, spent three years of my life here. So it’s a great state. Love it. And yeah. Yeah, it was awesome. But the thing is, I was talking to friends of mine who, like when I went to Penn, it was very dangerous at the time, but everyone thought it would get better as the years went on.

(03:37)
One of the issues was students would get killed from time to time, and that was pretty bad, obviously. And I was talking to someone who recently graduated from Penn. They said, “Actually, it’s worse.” And I’m like, “It’s worse?” What the hell is going on? It’s like, yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, the reality is that if someone is a violent criminal where they either are unable to control their violence or they like it, if you do not incarcerate them, they will hurt people. That’s what it comes down to. So if you don’t put hardened criminals in jail, they will kill people. But that’s what it comes down to. And that’s unfortunately the situation we have here is that the Democratic Party will not put hardened criminals in prison. And so they roam free and they prey upon you and your kids and your family and your friends. This is insane. How can we be the most powerful country in the world and it’s not safe to walk around our cities? What the hell is going on?

Speaker 1 (04:55):

George Soros.

Elon Musk (04:56):

Yeah. I mean, Soros misanthropic. For someone who sort of claims to be doing good, but actually he is not. He is tearing down the work of society. So terrible.

Speaker 1 (05:17):

Evil.

Elon Musk (05:19):

Yeah, so but I think it’s just unbelievable that, like you should be able to feel safe walking around American cities. And it’s not just, Philadelphia has a challenge, New York has a challenge, every major city in the US. My mom lives in New York, for example. Three of her friends have been assaulted on the street this year, and it’s getting worse. And now when she takes her dog for a walk, she has to stay inside of the building so she can call for help if need be. This is not the future we want. And if we get four more years of this, I mean, we’re going to be fully Mad Max. It’s like well, it’s nice to watch a Mad Max movie, but we don’t want to be in the Mad Max movie. Okay.

(06:25)
So yeah. And then the whole border thing is just insane. I always want to try to figure out what is the truth of the matter, what’s really going on? So on the border situation, it’s like, is it real or is it not real? So I went there in person and I just literally live-streamed what I saw. And our border looks like World War Z. Okay. It’s like Zombie Apocalypse. It’s insane. So this is, if you don’t have a border, you don’t have a country border. Yeah, I mean, we’re just saying we have to have real borders. And or if you don’t have real borders, you don’t have real country.

(07:09)
And obviously as someone who’s an immigrant, I’m pro immigrant. I just want to make sure that people come here, are going to be asked to society, and that they’re going to raise our standard living. I think the sort of sports team analogy is a good one. So let’s say your pro sports team, you want to win the championship. Then well, you want ACEs on your team obviously because they help the whole team win. So the same is true for immigration. If we have this sort of equivalent of Kobe Bryant or Steph Curry or LeBron or something like that, they want to join the team. Absolutely. Of course. Do you like winning? Yeah. Okay. But if they can’t play basketball, they shouldn’t be joining.

(08:02)
So that’s real important. And yeah, and then something that doesn’t get a lot of attention is the fact that the federal government is spending America into bankruptcy, which is crazy. It’s sort of, and that’s really what leads to inflation, is that when the government spends more than it brings in, that’s what causes inflation. Yeah. It’s just a pernicious tax. So there has to be much, we have to radically reduce the amount of government spending so that we don’t rack up a debt that is impossible to repay and drive the country to bankruptcy. So I mean, just basic stuff really. They shouldn’t be controversial topics. So it’s just like normal, common sense. Exactly. And you’re seeing all these attacks on freedom of speech, and they’re attacking me for freedom. It’s like, yo, that’s the First Amendment. Literally the first one.

(09:16)
Tells me it’s a high priority. And the reason they had the First Amendment was because the countries people came from, if you spoke your mind, you’d be imprisoned or killed. That’s why you have it. That’s really important. And then the right to bear arms is also really important. That’s there to protect. I mean, the Second Amendment is there to protect the First Amendment, so. As soon as the government can disarm the people, they can do anything they want. And we’ve seen this in one country after another. They take the guns away from their people, then they do fake elections, and then the people try to protest and they just get shot. That’s what happened in Venezuela recently. They had a fake election. Maduro lost, massively lost, like 70% loss. And he is like, “Oh no, I won.” And everyone’s like, “No, you didn’t win.” There were big protests in the street.

(10:25)
But the thing is that Chavez, when he came into power, took away everyone’s guns. So now you’re facing soldiers with assault rifles. What, you’re going to throw some sticks at them or something, use finger guns? It doesn’t work. So Maduro, even though he lost the election, is still in power. And that’s the kind of risk that we face, so. But we got to do everything possible to protect the Constitution. And I think this is, yeah. So for all those reasons, that’s why after thinking about it hard, it was very clear to me that Donald Trump has to win this election. It really does. Yeah. And so I think the most important thing that you can do, and what I’m asking everyone to do is make sure that you’re registered to vote and then vote early, and then talk to your friends and family and everyone you know to make sure that they’re registered to vote. Because Monday is the deadline for voting registration. And honestly, if there’s ever a time to be a pest with your friends and family, this is the time. Just, yeah. This is the time. Everyone you know, everyone you meet, everyone you run into, register them to vote, and then get them to vote immediately. And we only have until Monday night to register to vote. So the next basically three days are essential. And I think we see that the selection decided in Pennsylvania by, it could be 10, 000 votes, it could be 1000 votes, it could be 10 votes, it could be some very tiny number. So every incremental person is a huge difference. So I haven’t been politically active before. I’m politically active now because I think the future of America and the future of civilization is at stake,

Elon Musk (13:03):

So yeah, please go all out registering people. We got three days. Let’s go. Anything you could possibly do. So with that, I’m happy to answer questions or take comments from the audience.

Speaker 3 (13:17):

[inaudible 00:13:21].

Elon Musk (13:22):

Thank you.

Speaker 3 (13:22):

We’ll form a line. I have the mic. We’ll do one question per person. Okay?

Speaker 2 (13:36):

Yeah, I have the mic.

Elon Musk (13:50):

All right.

Speaker 2 (13:51):

Elon, first of all, welcome to Ridley Township.

Elon Musk (13:53):

Thank you.

Speaker 2 (13:55):

Delaware County. Welcome to Ridley School District and our beautiful high school. Because you made this your first stop, we’d love to make you an honorary Ridley Raider.

Elon Musk (14:08):

Thank you.

Speaker 2 (14:08):

I’d like to give you this football jersey. Sports is big in Ridley, big in Delaware County. This is must. 67 counties in Pennsylvania. We got to turn every one of them red.

Elon Musk (14:22):

Great. Sounds good. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (14:38):

First question is what can all of us here, everybody in this auditorium, everybody watching the live stream, what can we do now to make sure we get Donald Trump across the finish line in Pennsylvania and everywhere else in this country?

Elon Musk (14:53):

Yeah, it’s fundamentally for the next three days, just everyone needs to focus on registering friends, family, acquaintances, everyone you know. Because if you’re not registered by Monday, that’s why I’m being repetitive about this and really emphasizing this, anyone not registered by Monday evening or if they’re registered incorrectly, the vote won’t count. They won’t be able to vote. So we got three days. It’s all about registration, registration, registration, registration every single day. Like I said, this election could be decided by a handful of people. It could just be that little bit of extra effort on voter registration decides the entire future of civilization. So that’s why I’m saying, man, if there’s ever a weekend to spend going hog wild on registration, this is it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:48):

Hi, Elon. Thank you so much for being here. It means so much and I think it is really in line with your character as I’ve come to know you from listening to you speak in interviews. In addition to voting for Donald Trump, what can the average citizen do to help train AI to be truth-seeking?

Elon Musk (16:12):

Well, I think definitely publicly pushing to ensure that AI is truth-seeking and is not politically correct, which means factually incorrect. That’s a big deal. Just speak out on social media. Certainly complain loudly when other companies attempt to essentially program their AI with a dystopian San Francisco-Berkeley philosophy. If you want to know where that philosophy leads, just walk around the streets of San Francisco. But be careful because do not get killed by a violent drug zombie because they’re all over downtown SF. It’s insane. So we can see where does that philosophy lead, and unfortunately, I think a lot of the AIs are being programmed at least implicitly with that misanthropic dystopian philosophy.

Jasmine (17:16):

Hi, Elon. Right here on your right.

Elon Musk (17:22):

Sorry. I saw the lights in my eyes and stuff. It’s hard to see.

Jasmine (17:25):

Hi, my name is Jasmine. I’m originally from Malaysia and I’ve been here 20 years. I came here legally. I see a lot of immigration and a lot of immigrants who came here legally. They all support Trump and they want a strong economy. They want family values and all that. By the way, I came here because my daughter goes to school here. She told me to come over. I used to be really, really active in promoting Trump campaign four years ago, and I got burned out. I’m so frustrated and it’s all because of the cheating. So what are we going to do with that?

Elon Musk (18:13):

Well, there is I think some amount of cheating that takes place. It’s hard because when you have mail-in ballots and no proof of citizenship, it becomes almost impossible to prove cheating is the issue. So a lot of people on the Dem side will say, there’s no cheating, there’s no cheating. I’m like, you’ve made it impossible to actually prove that there’s cheating. But statistically, there are some very strange things that happen that are statistically incredibly unlikely. So there’s always this question of say the Dominion voting machines. It is weird that I think they’re used in Philadelphia and in Maricopa County, but not in a lot of other places. Doesn’t that seem like a heck of a coincidence?

(19:07)
I think, in my view, we should only do paper ballots, hand counted. That’s it. I’m a technologist. I know a lot about computers. I’m like, the last thing I would do is trust a computer program because it is just too easy to hack. It’s too easy to add just one line, and it’s really difficult to hack paper ballots. So it’s voting with proof of with ID, which, by the way, every country has. Almost every country that has democratic elections requires in-person voting with voter ID. It’s super weird to not have that. I think that’s the only way to effectively address fraud.` Given that we are where we are today, I think we just need a very big margin of victory. If the margin of victory is big enough, then, as they say, it’s got to beat the cheat. So, that’s it.

Speaker 4 (20:36):

Elon, first off, you’re my hero and I love your sneakers.

Elon Musk (20:39):

Thank you.

Speaker 4 (20:40):

So if you do choose to be the head of the Department of Government Efficiency.

Elon Musk (20:47):

Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:48):

Yep. What do you think about we stop giving money to other countries such as Israel, Ukraine and we stopped funding forever wars that most likely is going to the deep state anyway?

Elon Musk (21:05):

Yeah. Well, I think in general the amount of waste that happens with the federal government is really staggering. It’s a staggering amount of waste of taxpayer money. For any given expenditure, we have to say, well, what does this do for the citizens of America? How is this good for the people of America? It’s their money. For some weird reason, a lot of people in the state or whatever, the politicians, they seem to forget that the money being spent is your money. If it’s not being spent in a way that is beneficial to the American people, it’s a misuse of the funds. So yeah, there’s a lot of money that’s being spent where illegals are getting more benefits than citizens. What the heck is that? That doesn’t make any sense.

Speaker 6 (22:02):

Hi, Elon. So as we bring government spending and look inward to our country, I am a government employee, I care about innovation and efficiency. With your vision for a department of government efficiency, what can we do? How can we support you? And also how can we spot the needs of people In North Carolina. The body count is abnormally under-reported. What can we do to press on that and to support people within our country?

Elon Musk (22:25):

Sure. Well, I do think that government efficiency is not something about reducing the size of government, but making sure that there are incentives for excellent work. So whatever you incent will happen. So if you have incentives for excellent work, and by the same token, if someone’s not doing excellent work, they’re exited. It’s just like normal. It’s really what happens in properly functioning company is that you reward. Or think of a sports team, the players that are doing well, they get rewarded, and the players that are not doing well, they exit the team. That should just be how it works.

(23:01)
I think that’ll have a profound effect on the effectiveness of government because whatever you incent will happen. So if the incentives are aligned with saving people in North Carolina, then that’s what’ll happen. But if you have a failed response to the disasters, to the hurricane disasters, and no one even gets fired, well, okay, what do you expect? No one’s going to take action. If there’s a track record of failure, you have to exit the people who failed. Otherwise, people will look around and say, well, I guess I don’t need to do anything because nothing bad happens to you even if you do a terrible job and people die, which is insane.

Speaker 7 (23:47):

Hi, Elon. Can you tell us about your trip to Israel?

Elon Musk (24:00):

Yeah, it was a very moving trip. So yeah, it was a very moving trip. Definitely one of the toughest regions to… What set of actions result in the greater good in Israel? Obviously, you cannot have people who, if they want to slaughter everyone in Israel, you got to stop that. There’s no way. Those people either need to be that they’re killed or incarcerated or they will simply try to kill more Israelis. This is what it amounts to, obviously. They want to kill Americans too, by the way.

(24:52)
Generally Israel is referred to as the little Satan in America, we are the big Satan. That’s what the Ayatollah calls us. So I think a lot of what’s happening there is people are being taught to hate in Gaza from when they’re children. They’re taught to hate. That’s really the thing that needs to stop for there to be long-term peace, hopefully, is that you just cannot have the kids be taught to hate from the moment they can talk. That’s fundamental. I think it’s a three-step process there, which is you mentioned one has to do the difficult thing, which is to-

Speaker 8 (25:53):

Eliminate the mosque.

Elon Musk (25:53):

Yes, eliminate a mosque. Exactly. Then

Elon Musk (26:02):

I think also going forward, anyone who’s teaching hatred in Gaza or elsewhere, they need to stop doing that. That can’t be acceptable.

Speaker 10 (26:13):

Either that or kids can’t be taught that.

Elon Musk (26:13):

And we have to stop kids being taught to hate America in America. And then the third thing that’s also very important is that there has to be economic prosperity in Gaza. So this is very difficult. After terrible things have been done, you then have to bring prosperity to Gaza. And that’s the thing that will ensure… Provided kids are not taught to hate and there’s long-term prosperity, I think there will be peace in Gaza. And we see an example of that after World War II, where with Germany and Japan, they were defeated, they obviously did terrible things, but changed the education system. And unlike World War I, we helped rebuild Japan and Germany. The Marshall Plan. Instead of exacting vengeance, America insisted we’re going to help rebuild Germany, we’re going to help rebuild Japan, and now they are allies and there’s been no war ever since.

Speaker 10 (27:40):

And I want to say congratulations on the successful re-docking of your project. Big deal. And I’m going to go-

Elon Musk (27:56):

Thanks. Yeah, I mean honestly, it was a great week. Yeah, we had a Tesla sort of cool autonomous car and robot stuff, which I think it’s going to be really, really great. Who wouldn’t want their own personal C3PO RD2D. It’d be awesome. So I think that we’re going to build some awesome helper robots and autonomous cars. This is a good day. Fate is smiling upon us here.

Speaker 9 (28:32):

We’re really happy for you.

Elon Musk (28:34):

Thank you. We caught the rocket, which is just totally nuts. That rocket booster, it’s the largest, heaviest flying object ever made, and it just got caught by Mechazilla arms, kind of like karate kid but bigger. Catch on the fly with chopsticks.

Speaker 10 (28:59):

So my question is, do you think there is a shadow government behind the Biden-Harris administration?

Elon Musk (29:08):

I mean, well, let me put it this way, it’s not Biden. We know that for a fact. Okay. The dudes barely got two functional neurons, and he just seems to be at the beach a lot and he’s obviously not in charge. So I mean, when the polls started going low on Biden, he was saying, oh, he’s staying in the race, he’s staying in the race, but then I guess the real powers that be told him he is not.

Speaker 10 (29:43):

So who is it that’s behind him? We know Obama. Okay, but Obama-

Speaker 9 (29:49):

He broke that.

Elon Musk (29:52):

I mean, I’m just as curious as you are.

Speaker 9 (29:53):

Black rock.

Elon Musk (29:58):

As far as I can determine, there isn’t any one sort of puppet master. It is more like there’s a thousand or a lot.

Speaker 9 (30:06):

[inaudible 00:30:08].

Elon Musk (30:09):

But I mean, I’d like to talk to them to understand more about, listen, what are your goals puppet masters? I’m just curious. Maybe I agree with some of them. It’s possible. But it’s just obvious that Biden’s not in charge. It’s obvious that Kamala’s not in charge. They just replaced the Biden puppet with the Kamala puppet very obviously. And so you can tell if the teleprompter stops working, then the puppet breaks and it’s like, oh, the puppet just starts looping because the teleprompter broke. I don’t have a teleprompter. I can just talk like a normal human. So I mean, yeah, I think from what I can tell, it’s not one puppet master, it’s many. But interesting to see the crossover between the Epstein client list and Kamala’s puppet masters. I bet there’s a lot of names that appear in both lists.

Gregory Stenstrom (31:15):

Oh, sorry.

Elon Musk (31:16):

Yeah, Diddy too.

Gregory Stenstrom (31:17):

Can you move it up a little higher, so I don’t have to bend?

Elon Musk (31:19):

Diddy did it.

Gregory Stenstrom (31:22):

Elon, my name is Gregory Stenstrom. I’m from here, Delaware County, a few people who know me. In my hands, you asked earlier you’d like to go to a hand count. We have three federal suits right now. One, because we know for a fact and we have proof that the election code in the machines in Dominion and Harden Pacific are fraudulent here, right here in Delaware County, the Secretary of State their elections, Jonathan Marks admitted this in court last week.

Elon Musk (31:55):

Wow. He did?

Gregory Stenstrom (31:56):

In court on a transcript.

Elon Musk (31:58):

I didn’t read about that. For some reason the-

Gregory Stenstrom (32:00):

Of course… How many people here know-

Elon Musk (32:03):

… legacy media forgot to report about that one.

Gregory Stenstrom (32:05):

How many people here know me? Quite a few.

Elon Musk (32:08):

I usually keep up with these things and I did not know that.

Gregory Stenstrom (32:11):

Well, we’re also co-defendants, Leah Hoopes and myself also from Delaware County, were co-defendants with President Trump, and Rudy Giuliani in a defamation suit where we proved over 952 days that there was massive election fraud in 2020. We proved that in court. It’s a matter of public record. We also have the proof that the election machines that are currently being used are fraudulent. We have videos right now that I can show you of ballot boxes being stuffed here in Delaware County, Montgomery County, Chester County, and across the state.

Elon Musk (32:44):

Okay.

Gregory Stenstrom (32:45):

We have that video. We have submitted this to the federal courts in three federal cases. We have a SCOTUS case right here. And the SCOTUS case is just simple, it asks the DOJ to rescind their policy not to investigate election fraud.

Elon Musk (33:00):

Which seems crazy.

Gregory Stenstrom (33:01):

We are being blocked.

Elon Musk (33:03):

Yeah, this DOJ is doing a great… I don’t know, just take the J out of the name. Department of Injustice.

Gregory Stenstrom (33:11):

What I’d like you to do, Elon, is I don’t want to take too much time, and I know this is kind of a shock, but we have a book here, The Parallel Election. I have a Supreme Court case, and I have the federal suits here. We’ve called your people. We’ve called the people who are supposed to be helping. We have hundreds of people right now ready. They’re out taking videos, they’re training poll workers, and we are not getting support from many of the people in the first front rows here. And their pictures, if you want to know who they are, are in this book.

Elon Musk (33:49):

What I recommend is to post content on the X platform, and then people can argue and say it’s right or wrong. And if you have videos or evidence, then post them publicly on social media and then people can-

Speaker 10 (34:12):

Judge for themselves.

Elon Musk (34:12):

Judge for themselves. Exactly.

Gregory Stenstrom (34:13):

They’re on to them.

Elon Musk (34:14):

Okay, great. Excellent. Thank you. Anyway, let’s not get contentious. I think teamwork makes the dream work here and whatever the situation, I don’t want to dissuade anyone from voting. It’s very important to vote. So any actions with respect to voting machines and whatnot, we certainly want to put them under intense scrutiny. But nonetheless, everyone needs to vote. And like I said, if you leave here with one thing, the goal is to register as many people as possible to vote. That is the goal, and we only have until Monday night. That is the goal. One mission, bam.

Speaker 11 (35:06):

Hi, Elon. Thank you for being here. First, I want to thank you as somebody with a spinal cord injury for being innovative because not many people are. I won’t take up the time, but 18,000 people a year are injured, so thank you.

Elon Musk (35:23):

Absolutely. And I’m hopeful that Neuralink can do a lot actually. Initially providing the ability for anyone who’s lost the brain-body connection to be able to interface with their phone and computer faster than a human with working hands, which is I think really cool. But down the road, I think it’ll be possible to restore a whole body functionality. If you have a Neuralink in the motor cortex that then shunts past where the neurons are damaged in the spine, I’m confident that longterm you can actually restore people’s ability to walk and use their hands.

Speaker 11 (36:02):

I appreciate it. I would love to work with you on getting support around here. But-

Elon Musk (36:12):

Yeah, and in fact, one of the things… And to be fair, the FDA has been, within the context of their current rules, has been actually quite supportive. They’ve given us sort of express lane because they’ve seen the quality of the work and the sophistication of the technology, that they have given us sort of fast- track approval. But still, our progress is limited by regulatory issues. And that’s the same thing that’s happening with SpaceX, is like SpaceX can build a giant rocket faster than the license can be processed by the government, which is insane.

(36:46)
So I should mention, one of the most fundamental things about me supporting, and maybe the biggest showstopper of all for me in terms of why I feel Donald Trump must win, is that we have to have sensible regulations. Last time I checked, we have 428 agencies. So there’s more than an agency a year has been created since America was a country. We’ve got almost twice as many agencies as years that America has been a country, there’s sometimes two new agencies per year created, which is just madness. So America is being smothered by over-regulation. It’s like, I call it slow strangulation by over-regulation.

Speaker 11 (37:40):

I would like to ask about natural gas and lithium. Pennsylvania is rich of natural resources and fracking gas and lithium, which could benefit not only our state, but our entire country. However, many residents, and I have to be honest, along 350 miles of Pennsylvania had real challenges like eminent domain and the destruction of water sources, such as what happened with the Mariner East pipeline. How can we ensure that while utilizing these resources, we work closely with local governments and residents without the federal government overreaching and forcing land from homeowners. Effective communication with citizens and their involvement in these decisions is crucial. What role do you see for technology or private industry and making sure that this process is transparent and fair? Because believe you me, lots of people were forced with eminent domain and aquifers poisoned all across Pennsylvania, including our veterans. And this has been a real problem since 2016. So we want to support our workers and use our gas, but we need to be careful of what we’re taking from people who’ve lived here, families for centuries.

Elon Musk (38:54):

Certainly. I mean, I believe in sensible regulation, but what I see happening

Elon Musk (39:00):

… happening is that there’s a mountain of rules that actually don’t benefit people, and then there’s missing rules that do benefit people. So it’s this bizarre Kafkaesque nightmare of regulations where ultimately the good of the people is not served. And we get regulatory delays for things that are fake. Meanwhile, bad things are allowed to happen simply because someone filled out the paper book and gamed the system. So that’s what I mean.

(39:31)
When I say the Department Of Government Efficiency, I mean addressing any issue which is not in the interest of the people. And we do need to, at times, fight against what large corporations are pushing for, because some of them are very short term, and some large corporations do bad things. Corporations are like people. Some people are good people. Some corporations are good. Some are sort of meddling. And sometimes some corporations are bad. And it’s just like people. That’s the way to think of corporations. So we’ve got to stop the corporations that want to do bad things. Make sure they’re doing things that are in the interest of the people. And then corporations that want to do good things, they shouldn’t be slowed down by smothering regulation.

Speaker 12 (40:20):

[inaudible 00:40:24]

Elon Musk (40:26):

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 12 (40:26):

[Inaudible 00:40:30].

Elon Musk (40:29):

Yeah. Yeah, and I think these things should be done very much in the open so people can understand what’s going on and nothing in the shadows. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Brad (40:47):

Hey, Elon. How are you? I’m Brad. These are two tough acts to follow here. But my question is a little more simple. What are some of the first courses of action you plan to take as a head of government efficiency if Trump gets elected? And do you have any areas of concern in particular?

Elon Musk (41:06):

Yeah, that’s a good question. I definitely… The focus right now is making sure that Trump wins the election. Otherwise, it doesn’t matter. And I think if Trump loses, we’re going to see our cities are going to get less safe. The borders are obviously going to be wide open. We’re going to see government spending go ballistic, inflation going nuts. It’s going to be just bad on every level. And fundamentally, if the current trend of strangulation by overregulation is not turned around, we’ll never get to Mars. It just will be illegal. And there won’t be a one-planet civilization. There won’t be a space-faring civilization. And Starfleet will never be real. And we want Starfleet to be real.

(42:04)
I’ve had quite a bit of interaction with the government because SpaceX is the biggest NASA contractor, actually. There’s a lot of work for NASA. And I’m a big fan of the agency, by the way. But there are expenditures that don’t make a lot of sense, that are wasteful. And we need to put a stop to that. Honestly, there’s so much government waste that’s going on that I would call it a target-rich environment. In every direction there’s just mad waste. And I think simply, if people simply know that, well, if they waste a ton of taxpayer money, they’re going to get fired, that will immediately improve the situation. Immediately. Yeah, it’s just literally…

(42:58)
But actually, it’s going to be both carrot and stick. It’s like, if a government official is very effective in spending your money… Taxpayer money is your money. If they’re effective in spending your money, they should be promoted. They should be rewarded. And if they waste your money, or do something that’s basically corruption, they should be fired obviously. They have a duty to spend your money well.

Speaker 13 (43:28):

Hey, Elon. As a veteran who was deployed because of [inaudible 00:43:32] What would you say to an administration and a candidacy that is spreading lies or disinformation about the troops that are currently in combat, my friends?

Elon Musk (43:42):

Yeah, can you believe that was said?

Speaker 13 (43:43):

[inaudible 00:43:43] and Hunter Biden’s laptop presence declined, and so on.

Elon Musk (43:46):

Yeah, I mean, during the Trump-Kamala debate, she said there was no active-duty soldiers out there. I’m like, I know a whole bunch of them. What are you talking about? That’s a shameful, terrible lie. And she wasn’t even fact-checked. And I’m like, are you kidding? [inaudible 00:44:12] I mean, yeah, thank you. Thank you.

(44:19)
Yeah, and I’d just like to say, for the Americans out there who are serving in dangerous places right now, unlike what Kamala said, thank you for your service to the country.

Speaker 14 (44:46):

Elon, thank you for stepping up to help America when you don’t have to. You could be on an island right now.

Elon Musk (44:58):

Yeah. Yeah, I could be-

Speaker 15 (45:02):

He doesn’t seem to miss it [inaudible 00:45:07].

Elon Musk (45:08):

Yeah, I have a lot of jobs. No, it’s true. I mean, there are a lot of people I know who are on a yacht, sipping a Mai Tai or whatever, on an island. That is a thing I could be doing, but I can’t do that if I think the future of civilization is at stake, which I do.

Speaker 16 (45:33):

My question for you, I guess, one, do you know Alberto Cangahuala? He’s the system manager for Europa Clipper-

Elon Musk (45:50):

Oh, that’s a cool mission, by the way.

Speaker 16 (45:53):

Which you sent into space on Monday?

Elon Musk (45:55):

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 16 (45:55):

Thank you very much.

Elon Musk (45:56):

Absolutely. In fact, that was a mission where I talked to the SpaceX team. It’s like, every mission’s important, but this mission’s extra important. Like you, I think most people, I want a future where you look forward to it and you’re excited about what’s going to happen, that we’re going to learn new things, that we’re going to… It’s going to be better than the past. And a future where we’re a spacefaring civilization, and we’re out there among the stars, where Star Trek is real. That’s exciting. Life can’t just be about solving one problem after another. There have to be things that inspire you, that move your heart.

Speaker 17 (46:44):

Build a warp drive.

Elon Musk (46:44):

Yeah, that’s a hard one to build, but at some point we should build a warp drive. But even without the warp drive, the Starship, the rocket made by SpaceX, is capable of building a city on Mars and a city on the Moon. That’s what it’s designed to do. But we’re being massively slowed down by regulatory molasses. And I’ll tell you a crazy thing, we got fined $140,000 during launch. We’re going to cool the launchpad so it doesn’t overheat. And in excess of caution, we actually brought in drinking water, so super clean water. And the FAA said, no, you have to [inaudible 00:47:36] falls all the time. That is the same as the water that we used. There’s lots of sky water. And they’re not going to process any of our future applications. So this is the kind of crazy stuff we’re dealing with. [inaudible 00:47:53] Yeah.

Sarah (47:56):

Hi, Elon. My name is Sarah. I’m from Philadelphia. I have a whole team here. First of all, I am really excited about your [inaudible 00:48:07]. I would sincerely like to accept our proposal. And we want to have some further discussion with Trump to take our country back.

Elon Musk (48:23):

Well, thank you. Sure. Thanks.

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